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June 23, 2010 1:07 am

Don’t limit it to peanut allergies. I can never fly. because I have an airborne allergy to chewing gum other people have or chew. I can’t even go through some checkout lines in some stores, because they stock gum there.

I also can’t use mass transportation for this reason. If anyone chews gum on the bus or train, I go into anaphylactic shock. My airway closes off and fills up with mucus. This seems to be part of my latex allergy. I also had trouble with jury duty.

The way to do this is to let the allergic passenger state ANY airborne allergy. Then that substance would not be allowed on the flight.

Alternatively, give each passenger a clean air supply unpolluted by materials other passengers have. Do not recirculate the air.

June 23, 2010 1:13 am

I have the same kind of allergy trouble, but with chewing gum, new latex rubber products, new tires, pencil erasers, and burning rubber. I am not allergic to peanuts.

June 23, 2010 1:22 am

An Epi-Pen will not stop the reaction, unless the allergen is removed, or the patient is removed from the air containing the allergen. This is impossible in the confined space of an airplane.

There is no alternate transportation for international flights. And some people may have to fly because governments require them to be certain places at certain times (e.g courts).

There are no masks that stop proteins.

June 23, 2010 1:29 am

This is not a matter of itchy eyes or a runny nose. This is a matter of the airway closing down (preventing breathing), or the entire body going into anaphylactic shock. It causes death.

I have such an allergy, but to chewing gum and rubber. I almost died twice. For this reason, I can never use any form of public transportation.

The proper way to do this is to ban a substance from the conveyance only if a passenger on that conveyance has a life-threatening allergy to it.

June 23, 2010 1:34 am

Who’s talking hives? They itch. Try having your airway swell shut and fill with mucus. You are dead in 3 minutes.

June 23, 2010 1:47 am

Tiffany462, gluten allergies are not normally spread through the air. The limiting factors on such a rule should be:

- Such a passenger is actually on the flight.
- The passenger is affected in such a way that can cause permanent damage or death.
- The allergen is spread by airborne or contact means, not through consumption of the food.

Examples of such substances are peanuts, chewing gum, new rubber products, perfumes, and some skin softening products.

What should be done:
- The allergic person should declare the allergy when buying the ticket.
- The plane should be cleaned of such substances before the flight.
- The materials other people have should be checked in the baggage.
- Other passengers who object should be offered an alternate flight.

And those “obviously health”… more »

…people you see have invisible heart conditions that can produce a heart attack if they overexert. Also, you might be seeing a normal spouse or relative parking the car to pick up a handicapped person who is in the building. « less
June 23, 2010 1:56 am

Tiffany 462, an Epi-Pen stops the reaction for a few minutes at most. During that time, the allergen must be removed, or the allergic person must be removed from the allergen. And it is dangerous to use a second Epi-Pen soon after the first one. It is not a cure, but a stopgap measure to save life. There is probably not an airport within reach during the time the Epi-Pen works.

Your nonsense has to stop. Some people are required to fly, often by government decree (e.g. a court appearance).

June 23, 2010 1:41 am

I originally had this posted in another section, but it seems more appropriate here. I have an alternate solution to suggest: airline provided surgical masks to prevent airborne contamination and either thoroughly sanitized seating to prevent skin contact with oils left by previous passengers or, for those who don’t feel secure in sanitization procedure, sealed cleanroom suits available upon request. A quick Google check turned up boxes of 50 medical grade surgical masks for $22, a company named Microarray selling individually sealed cleanroom suits with hood and boots for $27.45 each, and a 40 pack of latex gloves for $6. This provides a cheap and perfectly effective solution to what is, apparently, a very occasional problem. These masks and suits are considered safe enough to avoid contamination… more »

…in the most sensitive of settings: operating rooms, high technology clean rooms, etc. They should be safe enough to avoid any chance of accidental inhalation or contact with peanut allergens. One thing I like about this as a solution is that it works equally well for all forms of airborne allergens, not just peanuts. What do you all think? « less
June 23, 2010 1:55 am

Your claim is specious at best. You can’t be exposed to an allergen that is wrapped, and therefore not exposed to the air.

If you really believe the DOT would let anyone cause any claimed allergen from a flight, you are daft. Everyone is allergic to something, so that would mean an empty plane, as well as an undue burden on other passengers and the airlines. It’s not going to happen, so you might as well stay home and live behind that plastic sheeting of yours.

Air is not recirculated on airplanes. That’s a myth that you need to abandon. The air on-board is cleaner than most public buildings. If you want your own air supply, bring it from home, since you’re not breathing the air inside your house or apartment.

Good luck with that.

June 23, 2010 2:35 pm

Thank you for your post midimagic. The DOT is interested in hearing alternative solutions.


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